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• Wanted to add the new fit I’m using to increase my Security Status in Null Sec with. It’s a Manticore with 2 ballistic controls, which really speeds things up.
  
  I’ve been pretty impressed with it. The high damage output drops rats quickly and the high resists allow it to tank belt rats with ease.
  
  Here it is:
  
  [Manticore, Ratter]
  Ballistic Control System II
  Ballistic Control System II
  
  1MN Afterburner II
  Medium Shield Extender II
  Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
  Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
  
  Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Scourge Torpedo
  Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Scourge Torpedo
  Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Scourge Torpedo
  Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
  [empty high slot]
  
  Small Ancillary Current Router I
  Small Ancillary Current Router I

  • Could you take the time to make a "2014" Hound fit for me please?

    • All fits have been updated

  • Is this relevant to Serpentis mission running as well? I have been looking for advice on this for a while now.

    • I've never tried a Stealth Bomber in a Mission. I imagine the Frigates would be a big problem.

• Why do you guys not run bomb launchers?

  • Using bombs when ratting would get very expensive and because of fitting demands you would end up reducing your DPS output by fitting a bomb launcher.
    
    Bomb Launchers are best reserved for PVP in my opinion.

• Are faction and officer spawns still possible? I heard they were buffed to be soloable by capital ships only..

  • Yes they are... Some guys in our corp got an Officer a few nights ago and faction rats a very common in Null Sec.

    The officer did take a 2 or 3 of them to kill though.

• Add a small autocannon or blaster to take care of close scramming frigs that happen to be around.

• This works "okay," but it's not at all quick. It's fun, and you breeze through gatecamps, however you WILL get ganked while you're ratting with sufficient frequency that you won't break even on ISK. The security status gains are pretty good though.

  • If you only rat in empty systems you will be fine. Just cloak when someone comes into system.

    Your biggest threat is jumping into a bubble, but even then you will escape most the time.

    You are right... This works great for raising sec status.

  • I can attest to his method and setup. I found a Shadow Serpentis ship that had dropped a Snake Delta implant worth 400 million isk at face sell value. While your luck may not be as good as mine was when I ran that night, running a chain of 20 systems in which you already have bookmarks to camp the gates at safely easily nets you 30 million an hour. Kill every battleship at all the belts and hope that you catch a faction mob at one of them. I get about 2.5 million in bounties per belt and average 5-6 belts per system taking about 20 minutes in each system. Once you get your routine down this can be an easy way to make isk. Also note that in a purifier with fairly decent skills you can still take down Serpentis ships. It's just more time/cost effective to hunt prey that are vulnerable to your damage. Doesn't mean you have to ignore the belt completely just because it's not the right faction. If there is a faction mob, you should attack it regardless of the faction affiliation.

    Just my 2 cents

• Beyond that it’s pretty simple, you orbit at 40km around the battleship rats while killing them and should you ever get down below 30% shield you warp out, regen shield and try again.

  ((Sorry but how do you manage killing the frigates size rats? I'd lived in 0.0 a long time and in every belt where I see BS... there is always 2-3 frigs... We all know the little damage torps do to frigs so it will take years to kill the frigs sorry to say that, if you need to warp in-out constantly; you just can't make even 20M an hour... So give us some advice for that ;) thx ))

  • Don't kill the Frigs (at least not all the time) = Rat Farming:

    If you kill an entire spawn then it will re-spawn at random, no telling what you will get next, but if you only kill the BS in the spawn leaving the smaller ships even only one of them, then when it re-spawns it will re-spawn the same ship types as before, in a system with lots of belts you kill all the spawns that don't contain the maximum number of BS you want. Any spawn that does have lots of BS's you don't kill the smaller ships, after only a very few cycles through all the belts you have every belt full of BS to profit from.

• I prefer a bomb launcher to insta-pop, or at least bring most battleships into low armor. I volley a cycle of torpes first and huck a bomb right after the torps. If the BS is still alive i just let the torps cycle until finished. Bombs are about 1M to 1.5M a piece right now so you need to pick your rats accordingly to make more that that at least.

  The real payday im looking for is the drop.

• Setup a Purifier and spent good part of the weekend ratting. A few times had pilots in the system looking for me but cloaked and waited them out... no problems. BS and cruisers were easy to take down as instructed. Didn't need to take the frigs down but even when I did, just took a few torps to pop them.
  Never lucked out with any faction drops thou, just standard T1 stuff, same as highsec missions leave.
  So is the faction stuff just a gamble and roll of the dice or do the odds increase the deeper in nullsec you go?

  • Faction stuff only drops from faction rats, so depending on the space you are in you can identify them before you ever kill them. All of them have different starts to their names, like: Shadow Serpentis, True Sansha, Dread Gurista, Dark Blood, etc

    Usually no need to even check the loot unless it's one of those or even rarer a officer which has a very different name and is tough to kill.

    But yes it's all by odds, some people say there are ways to "encourage" faction spawns, but I've never seen proof of it or had much luck trying. If I was to go looking for faction rats, I would set a long course through empty null sec and then check but not clear every belt of every system as I went. That way you are "rolling" the dice as many times as possible and more likely to get a spawn. Most likely you will get one faction rat every 10-15 jumps I would say.

    If you just want the ISK, go through and pop all the Battleships in a system then jump to the next and repeat. That will "roll" the dice a little more and you are concentrating on the highest value targets that the bomber does the best damage to.

• I tried to fit my Nemisis, using the suggestions above and could not get any of the mods to fit. Not enough CPU. How can they fir all those mods?

  • You need better skills most likely... Launcher Rigging, Weapon Upgrades, and the Electronics Skill will all help you to fit this.

    In the mean time try:

    [Nemesis, Ninja Ratter Low CPU]
    Damage Control II
    Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

    1MN Afterburner II
    Medium Shield Extender II
    Thermic Dissipation Field II
    Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II

    Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
    Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo
    Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo
    Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo
    [empty high slot]

    Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
    Small Core Defense Field Extender I

  • Use evemon, @ http://evemon.battleclinic.com/ to find out what skills you need and how to fit ships. I just downloaded it last nite right before i was bout to give up on Eve. It changed my mind. Worth it and its free. Helps you become a better user and get more out of the game.

    • EVEMon and EFT are required programs for EVE in my opinion. Especially when you are new to the game. Thanks for mentioning it, I will put some links in the side bar for them.

• If you just view yourself during shots an then recloak, why do you need Damage Control etc?
  Shouldn't I go for higher DPS instead?

  I'm very new to EVE so I have a few days left before I can fly a SB.